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	<description>Bio-Composting with Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Fascinating, Responsible and Rewarding</description>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, 

I also think a steady supply of food is the best approach. I often add non-pressure treated sawdust to my BSF colony and I have a feeling that could have helped in your case. If the waste becomes wet it can lead to anaerobic conditions which are associated with the crashes. Of course you must have adequate drainage for a BSF colony but I doubt you could effectively drain certain waste such as the biscuit blob. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, </p>
<p>I also think a steady supply of food is the best approach. I often add non-pressure treated sawdust to my BSF colony and I have a feeling that could have helped in your case. If the waste becomes wet it can lead to anaerobic conditions which are associated with the crashes. Of course you must have adequate drainage for a BSF colony but I doubt you could effectively drain certain waste such as the biscuit blob. <img src='http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aquaponic Dave</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>Aquaponic Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great way to crash your pod is to give your colony a huge amount of food for awhile and then cut it off. The resulting population boom will consume all the food available without any of them getting enough to remain healthy, and the colony will eventually &quot;crawl off&quot; to a large degree. The remaining larvae will crawl around in a very sticky mess. Amazingly they can live without air for quite a while as they navigate deep in the brown goo.

Adding to the carnage was the onset of somewhat cooler weather, but IMO the main issue was the near cut-off of food supply. The food I gave them during the 2 week period of gorging was a couple of large buckets of soggy, moldy biscuits. Yum. I fed them approximately 5-10 lbs a day for about a week and a half, as fast as they would eat because those biscuits were ripe! The BSFL proceeded to fill up a 2&#039; biopod to 1/2 way, at times the surface was 2-3&quot; deep with grubs. Unfortunately I didn&#039;t have any large fish or chickens handy to feed them to.

Keep up the good work!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great way to crash your pod is to give your colony a huge amount of food for awhile and then cut it off. The resulting population boom will consume all the food available without any of them getting enough to remain healthy, and the colony will eventually &#8220;crawl off&#8221; to a large degree. The remaining larvae will crawl around in a very sticky mess. Amazingly they can live without air for quite a while as they navigate deep in the brown goo.</p>
<p>Adding to the carnage was the onset of somewhat cooler weather, but IMO the main issue was the near cut-off of food supply. The food I gave them during the 2 week period of gorging was a couple of large buckets of soggy, moldy biscuits. Yum. I fed them approximately 5-10 lbs a day for about a week and a half, as fast as they would eat because those biscuits were ripe! The BSFL proceeded to fill up a 2&#8242; biopod to 1/2 way, at times the surface was 2-3&#8243; deep with grubs. Unfortunately I didn&#8217;t have any large fish or chickens handy to feed them to.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I started culturing BSF a few years ago there were no commercial units available. Dr. Olivier had generously posted images of his BioPod prototype so I made a crude imitation of it. As you say, it wasn&#039;t as efficient or as convenient as a BioPod, but it did work. Also, since I live in an area rich with black soldier flies I had a big advantage. I&#039;ve always encouraged people to build their own units and I&#039;ve given advice about it on a few forums. 

The fact that BioPods are made in Vietnam is not a simple matter of outsourcing for cheap labor. Dr. Olivier has been working with the Vietnamese for several years and he lives there.  He is trying to help the people improve their lives by using BSF as a sustainable and efficient way of feeding livestock and processing waste. I don&#039;t know if BioPods could be made and distributed more cheaply here, but I believe the Vietnamese people stand to benefit from making them there and I support that. Furthermore, BioPods are distributed around the world so making them in the U.S. might make them cheaper here, but it would only serve to make them more expensive elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started culturing BSF a few years ago there were no commercial units available. Dr. Olivier had generously posted images of his BioPod prototype so I made a crude imitation of it. As you say, it wasn&#8217;t as efficient or as convenient as a BioPod, but it did work. Also, since I live in an area rich with black soldier flies I had a big advantage. I&#8217;ve always encouraged people to build their own units and I&#8217;ve given advice about it on a few forums. </p>
<p>The fact that BioPods are made in Vietnam is not a simple matter of outsourcing for cheap labor. Dr. Olivier has been working with the Vietnamese for several years and he lives there.  He is trying to help the people improve their lives by using BSF as a sustainable and efficient way of feeding livestock and processing waste. I don&#8217;t know if BioPods could be made and distributed more cheaply here, but I believe the Vietnamese people stand to benefit from making them there and I support that. Furthermore, BioPods are distributed around the world so making them in the U.S. might make them cheaper here, but it would only serve to make them more expensive elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Amos Herrera</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Amos Herrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a comment on price.  Value does not always weigh out over affordability.  I agree that for the money, the biopod is a good buy.  Unfortunately I also agree that it is too extensive.  I know that I could build a unit out of 5 gallon buckets, screen and pvp pipes that would accomplish the job.  Granted, my units would probably be less efficient, but not to a greater degree than the price difference.  If I spend 20 dollars making a pod, and it only works half as well as a biopod, then I could just build 2 units.  Furthermore, if I am reading the page correctly, the pods are made in Vietnam. At 200 dollars a piece after shipping, why not make them here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment on price.  Value does not always weigh out over affordability.  I agree that for the money, the biopod is a good buy.  Unfortunately I also agree that it is too extensive.  I know that I could build a unit out of 5 gallon buckets, screen and pvp pipes that would accomplish the job.  Granted, my units would probably be less efficient, but not to a greater degree than the price difference.  If I spend 20 dollars making a pod, and it only works half as well as a biopod, then I could just build 2 units.  Furthermore, if I am reading the page correctly, the pods are made in Vietnam. At 200 dollars a piece after shipping, why not make them here?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The light colored stage of the BSF larvae are usually actively feeding. I believe they slow down for a short time just before they shed their skin when growing. I will sometimes see a few idle larvae among thousands of active ones so you have a bit of a puzzle there teel. Maybe the photo will help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The light colored stage of the BSF larvae are usually actively feeding. I believe they slow down for a short time just before they shed their skin when growing. I will sometimes see a few idle larvae among thousands of active ones so you have a bit of a puzzle there teel. Maybe the photo will help.</p>
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		<title>By: teel</title>
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		<dc:creator>teel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your moments and encouragement! Most, not all, of the pupa are rather light colored not dark, so I&#039;m hoping these aren&#039;t something else that&#039;s undesireable. I&#039;ll email a photo of the pupa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your moments and encouragement! Most, not all, of the pupa are rather light colored not dark, so I&#8217;m hoping these aren&#8217;t something else that&#8217;s undesireable. I&#8217;ll email a photo of the pupa.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi teel,

I can only assume that the BSF were present in your worm bin for a few weeks and you just didn&#039;t notice them. They would go where the food scraps were and I&#039;m guessing they were buried. 

Normally the dark brown mature BSF larvae would crawl away from the food source to pupate. Since they couldn&#039;t exit your bin they must have just pupated and in that stage they look pretty much the same, just stiff. It&#039;s very unlikely that they will be able to mate  in your worm bin after they emerge as adults. 

BioPods and BSF are great, but so are worms. Why not enjoy your worms until you have some extra money to spend on a BioPod. If you&#039;re handy you could always build your own version of a BioPod like I did before they were available. My homemade unit isn&#039;t nearly as efficient as my BioPod but I was still able to culture BSF with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi teel,</p>
<p>I can only assume that the BSF were present in your worm bin for a few weeks and you just didn&#8217;t notice them. They would go where the food scraps were and I&#8217;m guessing they were buried. </p>
<p>Normally the dark brown mature BSF larvae would crawl away from the food source to pupate. Since they couldn&#8217;t exit your bin they must have just pupated and in that stage they look pretty much the same, just stiff. It&#8217;s very unlikely that they will be able to mate  in your worm bin after they emerge as adults. </p>
<p>BioPods and BSF are great, but so are worms. Why not enjoy your worms until you have some extra money to spend on a BioPod. If you&#8217;re handy you could always build your own version of a BioPod like I did before they were available. My homemade unit isn&#8217;t nearly as efficient as my BioPod but I was still able to culture BSF with it.</p>
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		<title>By: teel</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>teel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question:  I&#039;m new to home worm composting. I have a Can o&#039; Worms that&#039;s about 2 months along and seems to be doing well.

Yesterday, I found ~lots~ of what I think are the pupa of the black soldier fly.  At least, they look a lot like your photos. But, I don&#039;t see any that wriggle around.

I wonder how they got there?

Can they just live out their life cycle in the worm bin? There is no opening in the Can o Worms for the adult soldier flies to get out.

The BioPod seems like an amazing product. Now I wish I&#039;d bought that instead of the Can o&#039; Worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question:  I&#8217;m new to home worm composting. I have a Can o&#8217; Worms that&#8217;s about 2 months along and seems to be doing well.</p>
<p>Yesterday, I found ~lots~ of what I think are the pupa of the black soldier fly.  At least, they look a lot like your photos. But, I don&#8217;t see any that wriggle around.</p>
<p>I wonder how they got there?</p>
<p>Can they just live out their life cycle in the worm bin? There is no opening in the Can o Worms for the adult soldier flies to get out.</p>
<p>The BioPod seems like an amazing product. Now I wish I&#8217;d bought that instead of the Can o&#8217; Worms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/06/26/i-crashed-my-pod-biopod/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the simple way is to have a unit expressly for raising BSFL. There would be other advantages besides easy collection, such as a way to &quot;compost&quot; meat, dairy, citrus, and almost anything organic except grasses.  

I don&#039;t have a great design for a homemade BSF unit but you can use almost any covered container with an exit ramp. For a few reasons my focus is on promoting the BioPod by ESR/ProtaCulture. It was designed and tested by Dr. Paul Olivier, one of the leading authorities on BSF technology, and I doubt that most people could build a unit that will function as efficiently. 

Considering the effort that went into the BioPod I believe the price is very reasonable. (I recently bought a Rubbermaid garden cart for the same price as a BioPod.) Also ESR/ProtaCulture is a model company and deserves to prosper. I recommend taking a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esrint.com/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ESR website&lt;/a&gt;, I think you will be impressed. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the simple way is to have a unit expressly for raising BSFL. There would be other advantages besides easy collection, such as a way to &#8220;compost&#8221; meat, dairy, citrus, and almost anything organic except grasses.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a great design for a homemade BSF unit but you can use almost any covered container with an exit ramp. For a few reasons my focus is on promoting the BioPod by ESR/ProtaCulture. It was designed and tested by Dr. Paul Olivier, one of the leading authorities on BSF technology, and I doubt that most people could build a unit that will function as efficiently. </p>
<p>Considering the effort that went into the BioPod I believe the price is very reasonable. (I recently bought a Rubbermaid garden cart for the same price as a BioPod.) Also ESR/ProtaCulture is a model company and deserves to prosper. I recommend taking a look at the <a href="http://www.esrint.com/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ESR website</a>, I think you will be impressed. <img src='http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nifty-Chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nifty-Chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very interested in a discussion on how to harvest the larvae from a compost pile.  There is a very brief mention of a collection system here: http://solarwayfarm.com/photo4

I&#039;d love to build my own contraption to dump them into a bucket to feed to my chickens ( http://www.nifty-stuff.com/new-chickens.php )  Any ideas on how to get the grubs to migrate from the compost pile into another container?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very interested in a discussion on how to harvest the larvae from a compost pile.  There is a very brief mention of a collection system here: <a href="http://solarwayfarm.com/photo4" rel="nofollow">http://solarwayfarm.com/photo4</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to build my own contraption to dump them into a bucket to feed to my chickens ( <a href="http://www.nifty-stuff.com/new-chickens.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nifty-stuff.com/new-chickens.php</a> )  Any ideas on how to get the grubs to migrate from the compost pile into another container?</p>
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