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	<description>Bio-Composting with Black Soldier Fly Larvae - Fascinating, Responsible and Rewarding</description>
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		<title>By: The Merry Yeoman</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2010/04/23/diy-bsf-bucket-composter-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator>The Merry Yeoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 04:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have purchased BSFL and they have begun to mature in my homemade bin. There are black ones in there that I am not sure are able to navigate the ramp or find the ramp. I did see several black ones trying to go up the wrong side. can I remove them for pupation ? -are pine shavings and shade sufficient for such? I am nervous about losing my small start to ignorance and the wrong garden zone. I plan on having them in a greenhouse for the winter. I am in southwest Ohio. Two black ones made it past my filter and were in my drainage jar. I scooped them out of the tea and they seem ok. I altered the drain to block additional ones and placed the two bsfl in the shade with pine shavings in a plastic ice cream tub with a hole in the lid. Whatcha think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have purchased BSFL and they have begun to mature in my homemade bin. There are black ones in there that I am not sure are able to navigate the ramp or find the ramp. I did see several black ones trying to go up the wrong side. can I remove them for pupation ? -are pine shavings and shade sufficient for such? I am nervous about losing my small start to ignorance and the wrong garden zone. I plan on having them in a greenhouse for the winter. I am in southwest Ohio. Two black ones made it past my filter and were in my drainage jar. I scooped them out of the tea and they seem ok. I altered the drain to block additional ones and placed the two bsfl in the shade with pine shavings in a plastic ice cream tub with a hole in the lid. Whatcha think?</p>
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		<title>By: John in HB</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The column is on line. Here&#039;s the link--

http://www.hbindependent.com/news/opinion/tn-hbi-0722-natural-20100721,0,2758200.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The column is on line. Here&#8217;s the link&#8211;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hbindependent.com/news/opinion/tn-hbi-0722-natural-20100721,0,2758200.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.hbindependent.com/news/opinion/tn-hbi-0722-natural-20100721,0,2758200.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: John in HB</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No bug, Akuma, but I don&#039;t have a BSF colony. 

I have noted hatched BSF pupae on walls around my house for years without realizing what they were. It has only been in recent months that I&#039;ve noticed live larvae in my compost pile, but that has been one or two here and there. 

Then, about three weeks ago, I was showing my compost pile to a columnist for the HB Independent and I hit a pocket of maybe ten larvae. Plus we saw an adult BSF. She was interested and has written a column that will be published in tomorrow&#039;s Independent (a Thursday weekly). I have not seen the column. Maybe it will provide some sources. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No bug, Akuma, but I don&#8217;t have a BSF colony. </p>
<p>I have noted hatched BSF pupae on walls around my house for years without realizing what they were. It has only been in recent months that I&#8217;ve noticed live larvae in my compost pile, but that has been one or two here and there. </p>
<p>Then, about three weeks ago, I was showing my compost pile to a columnist for the HB Independent and I hit a pocket of maybe ten larvae. Plus we saw an adult BSF. She was interested and has written a column that will be published in tomorrow&#8217;s Independent (a Thursday weekly). I have not seen the column. Maybe it will provide some sources. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: akuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>akuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello john sorry to bug,but hey could i possibly purchase some of your  grubs from you? i live in cm,been trying to get a colony started.
thanks.


Jerry,
also a question,like  i had said i&#039;m new and still trying to get my bsf going,but my adult larva that i had put in a bucket with saw dust,well thay all look sucked up and flat, could you tell me what i am doing wrong,
thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello john sorry to bug,but hey could i possibly purchase some of your  grubs from you? i live in cm,been trying to get a colony started.<br />
thanks.</p>
<p>Jerry,<br />
also a question,like  i had said i&#8217;m new and still trying to get my bsf going,but my adult larva that i had put in a bucket with saw dust,well thay all look sucked up and flat, could you tell me what i am doing wrong,<br />
thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: John in HB</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Akuma

Of course it does!!  8^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Akuma</p>
<p>Of course it does!!  8^)</p>
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		<title>By: akuma</title>
		<link>http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2010/04/23/diy-bsf-bucket-composter-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>akuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This question is for john in hb,HB doesn&#039;t happen to stand for Huntington beach does it?
thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question is for john in hb,HB doesn&#8217;t happen to stand for Huntington beach does it?<br />
thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

Fermented grain is a BSF magnet. One of the names people use for BSF larvae in Georgia is &quot;meal maggot&quot; because they&#039;re often found in damp and fermenting grain and animal feed. They don&#039;t represent a serious problem because they don&#039;t inhabit dry, properly stored feed/grain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Fermented grain is a BSF magnet. One of the names people use for BSF larvae in Georgia is &#8220;meal maggot&#8221; because they&#8217;re often found in damp and fermenting grain and animal feed. They don&#8217;t represent a serious problem because they don&#8217;t inhabit dry, properly stored feed/grain.</p>
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		<title>By: John in HB</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am noticing a buildup of BSF larvae in my compost pit (about 30 cubic feet). For the past year, I have been adding spent brewers grain from the local brewery at rate of 3-5 gallons a week. Every so often, I let the pile get out of balance or incompletely turned and the grain gets noticeably vinegary. From your comment above about a sour odor attracting females, am I correct in believing that the grain might have something to do with the increased BSF activity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am noticing a buildup of BSF larvae in my compost pit (about 30 cubic feet). For the past year, I have been adding spent brewers grain from the local brewery at rate of 3-5 gallons a week. Every so often, I let the pile get out of balance or incompletely turned and the grain gets noticeably vinegary. From your comment above about a sour odor attracting females, am I correct in believing that the grain might have something to do with the increased BSF activity?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 13:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen,

I live in Georgia, 20 miles north of Tallahassee Florida. I see BSF activity roughly half of the year so in terms of temperature you have twice the opportunity to increase your BSF population. Another way to look at it is that you have twice the opportunity to feed BSF larvae to animals. Yes, BSF survive the winter here, but the important part is that they don&#039;t reproduce during that period and consequently they are not available as feed and the population is (mostly) static. 

As important as temperature is to BSF reproduction it is far less a factor than predation. I&#039;ve read that BSF females lay between 500 and 900 eggs and I&#039;ll use the average of 700 for the purpose of this discussion. I&#039;ve also been told that the ratio of females to males is approximately 1/1. If a BSF population is in equilibrium then a mating pair will ultimately produce one other successfully mating pair and so on. If the original pair of BSF are only survived by two successful adults then that means that 698 of their eggs/larvae had no effect on the reproduction rate, largely due to predation. In nature the vast majority of that 698 would have been eaten while in the larval stage by the wide range of animals that prey on them. We can effect the BSF population dramatically by increasing the survival rate of the larvae/pupae through adult from 2 to something near 700. On the other hand, if you protect the 700 BSF only to a point and then use them to feed animals you won&#039;t have a noticeable effect on the size of the local population. In fact, if you are very careful about containing the developing larvae, and also very thorough in feeding them all to animals then you could theoretically be decreasing the local population. If my theory is correct protecting some BSF to maturity will have a far greater impact on the population than constant reproduction due to year round warmth. 

If my math is correct the typical survival rate is around .3% or less. Since the equilibrium of the population depends on a high BSF mortality rate you can effect the population noticeably even if you preserve only a small percentage of them to maturity. I have sold a lot of my BSF to others in the form of starter kits, and I have also fed quite a few to my pond fish, the local toads, and to the feral peafowl around my place. I haven&#039;t kept records but if I had to guess I would say that I&#039;ve protected 10-15% of my BSF to the point where they emerge and fly away to mate. 

I don&#039;t know what the population curve will do if you protect higher and higher percentages of BSF to maturity, but my math challenged brain believes that the curve would be exponential. In other words; preserving 20% of the BSF versus 10% would result in many times more BSF than simply doubling it. It would be great if someone with better math/science skills would review my thinking on this, but that&#039;s my best seat-of-the-pants effort. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen,</p>
<p>I live in Georgia, 20 miles north of Tallahassee Florida. I see BSF activity roughly half of the year so in terms of temperature you have twice the opportunity to increase your BSF population. Another way to look at it is that you have twice the opportunity to feed BSF larvae to animals. Yes, BSF survive the winter here, but the important part is that they don&#8217;t reproduce during that period and consequently they are not available as feed and the population is (mostly) static. </p>
<p>As important as temperature is to BSF reproduction it is far less a factor than predation. I&#8217;ve read that BSF females lay between 500 and 900 eggs and I&#8217;ll use the average of 700 for the purpose of this discussion. I&#8217;ve also been told that the ratio of females to males is approximately 1/1. If a BSF population is in equilibrium then a mating pair will ultimately produce one other successfully mating pair and so on. If the original pair of BSF are only survived by two successful adults then that means that 698 of their eggs/larvae had no effect on the reproduction rate, largely due to predation. In nature the vast majority of that 698 would have been eaten while in the larval stage by the wide range of animals that prey on them. We can effect the BSF population dramatically by increasing the survival rate of the larvae/pupae through adult from 2 to something near 700. On the other hand, if you protect the 700 BSF only to a point and then use them to feed animals you won&#8217;t have a noticeable effect on the size of the local population. In fact, if you are very careful about containing the developing larvae, and also very thorough in feeding them all to animals then you could theoretically be decreasing the local population. If my theory is correct protecting some BSF to maturity will have a far greater impact on the population than constant reproduction due to year round warmth. </p>
<p>If my math is correct the typical survival rate is around .3% or less. Since the equilibrium of the population depends on a high BSF mortality rate you can effect the population noticeably even if you preserve only a small percentage of them to maturity. I have sold a lot of my BSF to others in the form of starter kits, and I have also fed quite a few to my pond fish, the local toads, and to the feral peafowl around my place. I haven&#8217;t kept records but if I had to guess I would say that I&#8217;ve protected 10-15% of my BSF to the point where they emerge and fly away to mate. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the population curve will do if you protect higher and higher percentages of BSF to maturity, but my math challenged brain believes that the curve would be exponential. In other words; preserving 20% of the BSF versus 10% would result in many times more BSF than simply doubling it. It would be great if someone with better math/science skills would review my thinking on this, but that&#8217;s my best seat-of-the-pants effort. <img src='http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Del Bene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Del Bene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 06:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha Jerry,
Please tell me your thoughts on our tropical temperature and the amount of flies we can raise without continental US winter conditions. Our temp on Kauai does not fall below 52 nocturnally and is typically 65-75 in the winter and 75-88 summer months. This is a question Jim raised related to your suggestion that we allow BSF to grow to maturity related reinoculation of eggs and continuity.
Out of curiosity, where is your location and do the BSF survive through your winter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Jerry,<br />
Please tell me your thoughts on our tropical temperature and the amount of flies we can raise without continental US winter conditions. Our temp on Kauai does not fall below 52 nocturnally and is typically 65-75 in the winter and 75-88 summer months. This is a question Jim raised related to your suggestion that we allow BSF to grow to maturity related reinoculation of eggs and continuity.<br />
Out of curiosity, where is your location and do the BSF survive through your winter?</p>
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