BSF bucket composter v2.0

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This is no longer the current version of the bucket composter. Please see v2.1 HERE.

A full function BSF composter

I referred to my previous bucket composter as a “no frills” approach. This new version features everything needed for efficient and convenient BSF composting. The design is based on a typical 5 gallon bucket with lid, and other easy to find hardware items. I limited myself to new materials that I could find in national chain stores, but you can modify the design to take advantage of what you already have or what you can salvage.

I think the size of this composter is ideal for someone just learning about BSF composting. It can easily be moved as you find the best location, and there is less temptation to overload it with food scraps, something that I believe is a very common mistake with larger units. If you do feel like you want a larger unit you can simply apply the concepts for this bucket to a larger storage container.

I haven’t fully tested this design yet and I will post updates as I discover and address any weaknesses as I identify them. Please check the comments below for new information.

The bucket

The bucket I used is made by Encore Plastics but any brand can work. I like this particular bucket because it’s lightweight which makes it easy to cut the various slits and holes. I chose white because it will stay cooler if any direct sunlight hits it, but they do make a nifty green one.

Lid

Snapping the lid in place isn’t convenient when you’re making regular additions of food scraps or if, like me, you enjoy checking on the progress of your colony several times a day. For that reason I don’t snap the lid down, I just let it rest on the bucket. If you have critters (wild or domestic) that might get into the bucket you can make a fastener with two small bungee cords. Simply lay one bungee across the middle of the other bungee to form an “X” shape, and then tie the bottom cord around the top cord with a square knot. Next tie another square knot with the top cord so that the two are joined in the middle. It takes few seconds to secure all four hooks but the result is fairly secure.

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Ventilation

BSF larvae generate a lot of heat as they metabolize food scraps and other waste. Overheating leads to premature crawl-off of juvenile larvae as they try to escape dangerously high temperatures. BSF larvae perish when their body temperature reaches 115ºF (46C) and in most climates the composter should be kept away from any direct sunlight. (Those of you who live in cool climates may find that keeping the unit in partial sunshine could help maintain the proper internal temperature range) You can’t have too much ventilation so this new design includes a vent in the lid. The lid vent doubles as a handle for lifting the lid and I expect it will also be used by BSF females as an entrance when looking for egg laying sites. The first version of the bucket composter used several 5/8 inch (16mm) holes for ventilation drilled just under the reinforcing ring on the outside of the bucket. For this version I drilled 8 holes, 3/8 inches (10mm) in diameter and equally spaced around the circumference. Then 4 slits are formed using the 4 pairs of holes making sure that the area directly under the bucket handle is left intact so that it can support the weight of the unit when full. I think these slits will provide more surface area than a series of holes and also a more attractive entrance for the female BSF. Keep the slits close to the overhang to help avoid rain water intrusion into the unit.

I won’t be converting to metric measurements for the rest of this article because the size of the holes will be effected by the size of the fittings available where you live. Your goal should be to drill holes that allow a snug fit, even more so where the drain adapter passes through the bucket.

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I’m not going to describe how I cut the slits because it’s risky if you don’t know what you’re doing. The bucket I use is made of fairly soft plastic but your bucket may be heavier and may require a different technique. If you’re not a confident and experienced do-it-yourself type then please get help with this step. You can opt to use only drilled holes as I did in the first bucket composter version. I find that a sharp spade or paddle bit is the best way to drill through plastics although a friend has suggested using a hole saw with a blank drill bit for more precision. I use the higher speed on my cordless drill and it’s best to use very light pressure. If you drill the hole too quickly it tends to tear the plastic instead of cutting a nice clean hole. I don’t think it’s possible to cut a clean hole in this type of material with a regular twist type bit. I recommend practicing on a spare bucket before drilling the one you intend to use.

Lid vent – Like the lower vents, this opening serves two purposes; the obvious one of ventilation plus it allows the female BSF easy access to the inside of the composter where we want them to lay their eggs. The portion of this upper vent located below the lid offers a handy place to affix corrugated cardboard which is an attractive egg laying substrate for the BSF. The top part of the pvc tee accommodates 3/4 inch pipe and the vertical section is for 1 inch pipe. I chose this format over the standard 3/4 inch-only tee to create a larger hole going through the lid allowing more air movement. The reducer bushing which is fitted beneath the lid is normally used for transitioning from 1 inch pvc pipe to 2 inch. I drilled a 1 3/8 inch hole in the lid, again using a spade or paddle bit. A short length of 1 inch pvc pipe passes through the hole in the lid and into the tee fitting above and reducer bushing below. The pipe should be short enough to allow the two fitting to touch each other so you get a snug fit on both sides of the lid. I put a bead of silicone around the circumference of the lid hole on both sides to make it relatively water tight. The silicone may be enough to hold the fittings in place but it might be best to use a little pvc cement on the pipe also. The 3/4  inch pvc pipes that extend out horizontally from the tee are cut at a 45º angle to shield the inside from rain intrusion.

Update: May 5, 2010 – I had thought the vent fitting and pipe for the lid vent would be used by the female BSF as an entry point. Over the past several days I’ve observed a few dozen BSF entering the bucket but none used the lid vent. I think the next one I make will use a larger pipe/fitting. More ventilation can’t hurt and I want to do everything I can to make easy access for the female BSF.

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Larva barrier

Without some method of containing the larvae they could easily escape via the vent holes whenever condensation was present on the inside of the bucket. For the past few years I have had good success using Velcro as a barrier. I’ve primarily used the hook part of the “hook and loop” material but I think both would work. When the larvae and container are damp, the surface tension of the water allows the larvae to stick to the vertical surface of the container. If a larva tries to cross a vertical strip of Velcro the raised surface of the Velcro hooks (and probably of the loops too) break the surface tension of the water and the larvae falls back to the compost.

It’s important when applying the Velcro that the surface of the bucket is dry and free of oil or dirt. I avoid touching the sticky back of the Velcro by using the point of a razor knife to hold it while I peel off the backing instead of my fingers. Leave expansion gaps in the Velcro because otherwise it tends to pucker or pull away from the bucket in places leaving spaces that the larvae might fit through. The small gaps I leave are probably too small to allow a full size larva to pass through, but I put another piece of Velcro directly above expansion gaps to container smaller larvae. Since Velcro usually comes with both hook and loop you will probably have extra loop material which you can use for this purpose. I used a longer strip of loop above the gaps than necessary because I think the female BSF might use it as an egg laying substrate. Even when I’m careful it’s not unusual to see bumps form in the barrier. When that happens use a razor knife to cut the area that popped up and convert it to an expansion gap. I currently have one DIY composter that spent an entire year outdoors through a wide range of temperature and humidity. The Velcro is still firmly attached and working well.

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Drainage

The most important function of a BSF composter is that it drain excess liquids quickly and thoroughly. Accumulated liquids will starve the compost of oxygen which promotes the growth of anaerobic bacteria. Anaerobic bacteria thrive in material with little or no oxygen and produce foul sewer type odors. A properly designed and managed BSF composter has a pleasant earthy aroma; if you smell bad odors it’s a sign that your colony is out of balance. I think the filter and drain of this design will function very well. The drainage system consists of a filter medium, a collection area and a drain tube. You may set up your system to drain into the ground or you may collect the liquids via a cap on the drain tube when convenient. Some people claim that the liquid resulting from BSF composting has value as a fertilizer but I have not tested that theory. I don’t save the liquid.

Filter – I’ve used coconut fiber (coir) in the past to filter liquids in my original BioPod. It works well unless the larvae expand it and mix it into the compost. You can use coir but you must find a method for keeping it in place. As an alternative to coir I used an air conditioning filter material that is made from hog’s hair. It’s biodegradable and is designed for use in wet applications. The brand I used is NaturalAire and I found it at a few different national chain stores. One advantage of this material over coir is that the fibers are glued together so it’s less likely the BSF will expand it. It has a mesh fabric on one side which will also help. For a template to shape the filter I used a bowl that was the same diameter as the inside of the bucket about two inches from the bottom, where the filter will be installed. It’s important the filter fit tightly against the wall of the bucket so that food scraps don’t fall through. The larvae will be able to crawl into and around the filter, but that shouldn’t be problem. Cut two discs and sandwich them together with the mesh on the outside of each. Then, using a large yarn needle, stitch the two discs together with some type of string, twine, fishing line, etc. Don’t pull the string too tight because you don’t want to compress the filter; you just want to prevent the larvae from expanding it.

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Update: May 5, 2010 – Well, I only have 400-500 medium to large larvae in this unit now and they’re already distorting the filter. Never underestimate the power of the grub! :) I didn’t know how strong or weak the mesh was but the larvae have pulled the strings wide apart in some spots. In the future I will probably add several concentric circles of stitches to help hold it all together. Maybe a synthetic material will hold up better…

Update: June 2, 2010 – The original filter seems to be working but I’m testing a new filter material now which is synthetic. I like that the other stuff is bio-degradable but I don’t think it will function as well for as long as a synthetic. Of course you can also work with coconut husk (coir). You will always have the option of removing the larvae and compost from your unit in the future and installing a different material. Below are photos of the new filter I’m testing.

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Liquid waste holding area – Accumulated liquids need an unobstructed area so that they can flow freely. This is achieved by supporting the filter a few inches above the bottom of the bucket. In this version I’m using plastic practice “golf balls” which are inexpensive and effective. You could use a wide variety of materials to accomplish this but I like the fact that the balls are hollow and perforated so most of the space is utilized for holding the liquid waste away from the filter and compost.

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Drainage tube – The liquids are drained from the bucket via 1/2 inch diameter vinyl tubing fitted to the bucket with common plumbing fittings. To get a watertight seal it’s important that you drill a precise 3/4 inch hole through the bucket at the proper location assuming you use the standard adapter that I used here. The size of the hole was such that it took considerable force to thread the fitting through it. Before drilling I set the fitting in place and held the bucket up to the sunlight to see where the hole would be centered (see photo). The nylon barb adapter passes through the hole you drilled and into the female threads of the pvc fitting inside the bucket. I modified the pvc fitting with notches so that it could rest on the bottom of the bucket and still drain. Since I used a downward facing elbow fitting I will have the option of creating a light siphon effect if I choose to. You could also opt to use a straight fitting instead of an elbow. It can be difficult to thread plastic fittings tightly together so I applied pvc pipe thread sealant to the female threads of the elbow to help lubricate them. I also placed a bead of silicone sealant around both fittings where they contact the bucket. Silicone doesn’t adhere well to the bucket I used, but maybe it will at least act as a gasket. I used the same 1/2 inch thread – 1/2 barb adapter on the outlet of the drain tube so that I could fit a 1/2 inch pvc threaded cap to it. There are hundreds of variations for the drainage plumbing that would be equally as effective and if you have difficulty or suggestions please post them in the comment box at the bottom of the page.

Update-5/21: The next bucket composter I make will have the drain located as low as possible. That means I’ll need to use a straight fitting instead of the 90º elbow I used here.

Optional tap – I also considered ordering a tap like those used on buckets for brewing beer or wine. Those come with a handy nut and gasket and you could probably attach a tube to the outlet for easy dispensing. The only reason I didn’t get one was because it would have added $4-$5 dollars to the cost of the bucket. If you can’t get a water tight seal with the system I used then you might try getting a tap.

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Harvest system

Unlike the first bucket composter this design will collect mature larvae as they migrate away from the food source in search of a pupation site. This is achieved with a funnel that rests against the bucket wall which is inserted into a tube that spirals up to a pvc pipe leading into a collection container. I made a funnel from a generic one gallon plastic water bottle. I chose this because it is cheap, pliable enough to easily work with and it can be found anywhere. You could also use a proper funnel if you can find one with a flat or straight side that will mesh with the bucket wall vertically. The handle section of the water jug fits snugly inside of the 3/4 inch internal diameter vinyl tubing used here. Below the handle I left portions of two adjacent sides of the bottle which are at right angles from each other. One side will be placed vertically against the bucket wall and the other will be partially buried beneath the compost. As the level of the compost rises the flexible tubing will be adjusted accordingly to keep the funnel properly placed at the surface. Since the funnel and tube will need to be adjusted over time I use a pair of magnets to secure the funnel to the bucket. Magnets can be found at hardware and craft stores.

Traction issues – One issue I had with several different types of tubing was that they were all very smooth on the inside and the larvae had difficulty getting traction. This isn’t a problem given sufficient humidity, but we can’t always count on that. The angle can be lessened by using a longer tube to make a more gentle spiral, but I would prefer a shorter tube if possible. I did manage to etch the inside of the tube for this unit by running some pvc cement through it. It was a messy, stinky process but it seems to have worked. I removed the glue by rinsing with water which seemed to transform the glue to something like a solid plastic. If I try that again I’ll try removing the glue by running a strip of fabric through the tube instead. Of course you would need to allow the fumes from the glue to evaporate for several hours or overnight. Mechanical scratches should work fine and I picture using a long drill bit or a rod of some type to reach into the tube and roughen the surface. Any suggestions for de-glossing or scratching the inside of the tubing would be appreciated.

Once you exit the bucket with the pvc fitting it’s a matter of simple plumbing to direct the larvae into a harvest container. I haven’t yet glued most of the pvc fittings and it doesn’t seem necessary since the parts hold together well due to friction. You can use any container that has a water tight lid and if your unit will be protected from rain you really don’t even need a lid. In a dry location you could opt to use only a vertical pipe that enters the harvest container through the top. The purpose of the horizontal pipe is to allow a side entry to minimize rain intrusion. The horizontal pipe is angled slightly upwards as it enters the container so that rainwater will run away from the container and not into it. An inch or two of dry sawdust will serve two purposes; it will quiet the larvae by giving them cover and it keeps the larvae dry so they can’t crawl up the sides of the container.

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Conclusion

I’m sure I haven’t included every piece of information possible for constructing this composter, but most of it is common sense if you understand what the goals are. I hope that the photos will supply enough information that might be lacking in the text. This unit is cheap enough to build that you can afford to engage in a little trial and error until you get exactly what you want. There are numerous opportunities to hurt yourself constructing this so please be careful. :)

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Questions, comments and updates

I want to be clear that I have not tested this composter yet. I believe it will work fairly well as described above but I expect to make changes as I work with it. If you have questions or suggestions please use the comment box located at the bottom of this page. I’m especially interested in variations on the funnel and tubing that directs the larvae into the collection container.

Follow my progress via youtube:

DIY black soldier fly bucket composter – part 1

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DIY black soldier fly bucket composter – part 2

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BSF bucket composter April 26 2010

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BSF bucket after two weeks

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Comments 70

  1. William Hale, Sr wrote:

    I have just accumulated the parts for your ver. 1 DIY Biopod and I happened to stumble upon your ver. 2.
    I love your new design and I am going to build one like it. I think it was well thought out and it should work great!
    I am looking forward to obtaining a start-up kit when available.
    Thank you for sharing and keep up the great work………Bill

    Posted 07 Apr 2010 at 3:18 pm
  2. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Bill,

    I think you could easily adapter coconut coir as the filter in this new version. You might try stitching the coir together as I did with the A/C filter but with many more stitches. Maybe some type of mesh could be used also to hold it together even better. Whatever you do please let us know how your project goes.

    Posted 07 Apr 2010 at 3:37 pm
  3. David wrote:

    Once you have this bin built, how many grubs do you think are necessary to get it going, to avoid allowing flies from laying their own eggs into the composting material? Also, any estimates on the final capacity of this unit before another one is necessary?

    Posted 07 Apr 2010 at 3:41 pm
  4. Jerry wrote:

    Hi David,

    Assuming there is a wild population of BSF where you live you don’t need any larvae to start a colony. A starter kit is fine if you’re in a hurry and it makes for an interesting project but it isn’t necessary. A starter kit doesn’t guarantee success, it only increases your chances of attracting wild BSF which you can also do by putting out food scraps until the females find them. I think it’s a good idea to use a separate container for attracting the BSF initially because those scraps can spoil to the point where you might not want to add them to your composter.

    House flies and fruit flies will always be part of starting a new BSF colony though you can minimize their presence by lightly covering the food scraps with an inch or two of shredded office paper. The pest flies prefer to lay their eggs directly on the waste so the paper discourages them from laying. BSF on the other hand rarely lay directly on the waste and prefer to lay above or beside the food source. It would be nice if we didn’t have to deal with pest flies but they don’t remain for long once the BSF take over.

    I hate to guess about the capacity of this unit but I wouldn’t be surprised if it could handle a pound (.4 kg) of household food scraps per day. A lot will depend on factors like ambient temperatures, type of waste, density of the colony, and operator skill. Maybe it could handle two pounds per day under certain circumstances. I’m looking forward to hearing what others experience as they try out this design. :)

    Posted 07 Apr 2010 at 4:15 pm
  5. Garbly wrote:

    I love this design. You are such a genius. When I tried to make my own bucket without plans before my main problem was not being used to using tools. My problems were drilling precise holes for fittings that left no gaps for larvae to escape from, making some barrier to keep the larvae in, and making an exit ramp with the right angle that would adhere to the bucket wall. All the pictures I saw used flexible tubing cut in half to make an open sided ramp. When I tried that my tubing would twist and the open cut made threading it through an exit hole difficult. The larvae want to crawl up and if there is any part of your exit system that requires them to crawl down to get out, even for a short distance, like maybe a fitting outside the bucket, the larvae will turn around and go back the way they came and fall off the top of an open ramp back into the bucket. I have seen this with my own eyes and it is very frustrating.

    I like your design of adjustable closed flexible tubing with the funnel. The magnets are a great idea, because I could not find any way to get my tubing to adhere to the bucket wall while spiraling upward. One problem I have found though is that if there is a gap between the tubing and the wall the larvae will just crawl behind it and up on top of your tube and not make it into the collection bucket. Enough will probably find the funnel though.

    About making the tubing rougher. I have found that the larvae trail a lot of dirt along behind them as they crawl up stuff making their own rough trail that the other larvae seem to follow, so after a while your tubing will be coated and rough as the larvae forge a way up to the top. This is a problem when they find a way out on their own too. There is no way to keep the bucket so clean that the larvae can’t crawl up the sides whenever they want eventually, but the Velcro looks very promising. What a great idea! Have you observed it in action?

    Since your drain is on the side are you planning to tilt the bucket to get it to drain?

    Thanks for the great plan.

    Posted 08 Apr 2010 at 8:45 am
  6. Jerry wrote:

    Thanks Garbly, I don’t know about genius but I do have a lot of time on my hands. :)

    One problem I have found though is that if there is a gap between the tubing and the wall the larvae will just crawl behind it and up on top of your tube and not make it into the collection bucket.

    It’s true that some mature larvae will wedge themselves between the tubing and the bucket, but I’m not sure that they will necessarily pupate there. My guess is that they will resume their search for an exit sooner or later. I’ve been thinking that even larvae need to rest sometimes and just because they’re motionless one moment it doesn’t mean they won’t become active later. The bottom line is that the bucket isn’t a good pupation site and we’ll have to see if some BSF fail to find their way out with this design.

    I have found that the larvae trail a lot of dirt along behind them as they crawl up stuff making their own rough trail that the other larvae seem to follow, so after a while your tubing will be coated and rough as the larvae forge a way up to the top.

    I’ve seen this also, but I do want to find a good solution for the trailblazing larvae that use the ramp first. One solution might be to wait until you have mature larvae present and then coat them with some wet and sticky material like clay or some type of food. If they’re wet enough they’ll be able to get sufficient traction, and as they climb the tube they’ll leave a trail for those that follow. The bottom flat section of the funnel might allow us to pool that material at the opening to the tube.

    There is no way to keep the bucket so clean that the larvae can’t crawl up the sides whenever they want eventually, but the Velcro looks very promising. What a great idea! Have you observed it in action?

    Yes, I’ve been using Velcro for this purpose with great success. I began testing it last fall and I’ve never seen evidence that a larva will be able to crawl vertically across a strip of Velcro.

    Since your drain is on the side are you planning to tilt the bucket to get it to drain?

    No, I don’t plan on tipping it. I think that bottom drains are too limiting since it requires adapting whatever you use for a base to set the unit on. I can live with some residual liquid in the bucket as long as the filter and compost are held above it. If you wanted to you could forgo the elbow fitting and place a straight fitting closer to the bottom of the bucket. I don’t know if it will be useful but the design above will allow me to create a siphon effect because the level where the liquid enters the fitting is lower than the where it exits the bucket. My thought was that I may be able to use that to loosen a light blockage if it should occur. In normal operation the bucket will drain to the higher level of the fitting outlet, but with a siphon I can bring it down to the top of the little arches in the inlet of the elbow.

    You do have the option of installing the drain on the bottom. You could also tip the bucket as you suggest.

    Thanks again Garbly for your kind words. :)

    Posted 08 Apr 2010 at 11:26 am
  7. Russell wrote:

    Great idea and the pictures really help! About “roughing up” the flexible tubing…have you tried a round wire brush? They come in different diameters and lengths…with different metals for the brushes, like brass or stainless steel. Looks a little like a very large pipe cleaner with a spiraled wire handle.

    Russell

    Posted 09 Apr 2010 at 2:09 am
  8. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Russel,

    I think a round brush would do the trick. One of my considerations was that I wanted to keep the top side of the tube clear so I could watch the larvae move through it. I don’t think it’s critical to be able to see into the tube but It’s something I prefer if possible. If I find the right size brush I will get one and try it out though. Thanks!

    Posted 09 Apr 2010 at 7:40 am
  9. Frank wrote:

    Neat design…a peice of fabric through the tube might work or maybe run a few strands of hemp string through the tube to create “runways” for the larvae to crawl up?

    Posted 14 Apr 2010 at 5:06 pm
  10. Jerry wrote:

    Thanks Frank,

    I’ll keep your suggestion in mind. I just saw my first BSF adult of the season a few days ago and I’m going to start this unit out with a new vinyl tube to see if it can work without modification. The tube I have in the bucket now is a little longer than the one in the photos above. It’s about 3/4 as long as the bucket’s circumference which results in a more gradual slope.

    Posted 14 Apr 2010 at 5:42 pm
  11. Ej wrote:

    I am a small farmer in the Houston Texas area. I would like to start a colony that would help to manage my manure. Do you think the BSF would succeed in composting manure with out any food scraps? I don’t produce food scraps as fast as the animals produce manure. Also I would like to find a source for a starter culture to aide in getting my colony started. Thank you

    Posted 17 Apr 2010 at 4:32 am
  12. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Ej,

    BSF are attracted to manure, but certain types are less attractive. Horse and cow manure are less attractive because of the high cellulose content which BSF can’t break down well. BSF are often found in poultry and swine manure and they will thrive in it without additional food scraps.

    I will offer BSF starter kits on this site in a few weeks, but you should be able to easily attract BSF in Texas without one. Soak whole dry corn kernels in water and keep it partially submerged. As it ferments it will attract your local BSF. The kit I will promote here contains both larvae and BSF eggs and it can help speed up the process. It also allows you to study the tiny larvae just after they hatch which you might have difficulty doing otherwise.

    Posted 17 Apr 2010 at 7:14 am
  13. myway500 wrote:

    To Ej, BSF’s delite in cow pats, even McDonalds Whoppers so they’re really not fussy.

    Posted 19 Apr 2010 at 10:22 pm
  14. Darren wrote:

    Hi Jerry.
    Just a thought on the crawl off tube. It doesn’t have to be in tact the full length. You could make a slit with a marking knife to access the inside of the tube for scoring. The slit could be almost the full length leaving the ends in tact for connection. Alternatively you could use a rubber irrigation tube or hose which might offer more traction. I am making some modifications to my compost bin to make it more fly friendly using some of your design ideas here. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks for your blog. Its been great.

    Posted 19 Apr 2010 at 11:19 pm
  15. Jerry wrote:

    myway500,

    It’s true, BSF are not fussy eaters. :)

    Posted 20 Apr 2010 at 7:02 am
  16. Jerry wrote:

    Darren,

    Before I do anything else I’m going to test the tube as it is and see if I have a problem. If there is an issue I think your idea is a good one. I may have solved it by using a longer tube to produce a more gentle slope but only time will tell. I appreciate the suggestion and I hope your project goes well.

    Posted 20 Apr 2010 at 7:08 am
  17. Ej wrote:

    I think I will build a few of the 2.0 version bucket composters, to get started, but I was wondering if I build a bigger one how deep will the larvae go. I would like to build some thing that could handle a large amount of manure. I was thinking about building a larger version of this with a 55 gallon drum, but I wasn’t sure if the larvae would go to the bottom of it or if I should think of something that is more shallow.

    Posted 20 Apr 2010 at 11:23 am
  18. Jerry wrote:

    Ej,

    I’ve found BSF at the bottom of a 12 inch layer of compost, but I think shallow and wide is much better than deep. The churning action of BSF larvae is what aerates the waste and prevents foul odors caused by anaerobic bacteria. If you rely on the larvae traveling very deep into the waste I think you will end up with inefficient mixing and therefore will be prone to problems. A 55 gallon drum on it’s side would be much better.

    Posted 20 Apr 2010 at 11:42 am
  19. Garbly wrote:

    I use a 55 gallon water barrel on its side. You can see pictures of it at texasurbanhomestead.blogspot.com

    Posted 20 Apr 2010 at 3:04 pm
  20. Jerry wrote:

    Garbly's DIY BSF barrel

    http://texasurbanhomestead.blogspot.com/2009/09/my-black-soldier-fly-larvae-set-up.html

    Posted 20 Apr 2010 at 9:14 pm
  21. Steve wrote:

    Thanks for sharing your design! I have a couple of questions about the drainage system.

    What is the advantage of a biodegradable filter? I was thinking of using something like a giant scotch brite pad (hopefully coarser) if I could find anything large enough.

    Why not just drill holes into the bottom of the bucket? I was thinking of nesting the bucket with holes inside a bucket without. Any downsides you are aware of besides probably having to rinse it out?

    As an aside, I’m leaning towards using something like those Rubbermaid storage bins instead of a bucket. But I’ll need one of your starter kits because I’m in suburban Chicago.

    Posted 26 Apr 2010 at 5:27 pm
  22. Garbly wrote:

    Does anyone know if Neem will harm your larvae? If I spray my garden with Neem to kill aphids and then later put the garden refuse in the BSF composter, will it harm the BSF larvae?

    The place I bought it from said it was organic (not harmful to humans) but that it would kill bees if I sprayed them directly. Apparently it wont kill bees that come by later, but the bees aren’t eating the plants.

    Posted 27 Apr 2010 at 9:06 am
  23. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Steve,

    What is the advantage of a biodegradable filter? I was thinking of using something like a giant scotch brite pad (hopefully coarser) if I could find anything large enough.

    The only advantage is that it might be easier to dispose of in a conscientious way when you’re through with it. That aside, there are other generic filter mediums that might work even better. I think the same company that makes the filter I used also makes a cut-to-fit A/C filter from synthetic material which might be a good choice.

    Why not just drill holes into the bottom of the bucket? I was thinking of nesting the bucket with holes inside a bucket without. Any downsides you are aware of besides probably having to rinse it out?

    The drain you describe is the first one I used when I started designing bucket composters. The main point of a drain is that if allows the liquid to drain away from the compost efficiently. Where the liquid goes after it leaves the bucket isn’t so important. The liquid is said to be a strong attractant to egg laden female BSF. For that reason some recommend not exposing the liquid because the females will lay eggs near it, outside of the unit. I have had BSF units with semi-open drainage and I haven’t noticed this problem. Draining directly into the ground is fine, but it might not work if you want to keep your unit on a patio for example. This unit will not have a bad odor when operated properly and a convenient place to keep it might be near the backdoor of your house and in that case it might be advantageous to contain the liquid. A contained drainage system also makes relocating the unit easier. One reason to move it would be to keep it shaded as the season changes and the sun hits different areas.

    As an aside, I’m leaning towards using something like those Rubbermaid storage bins instead of a bucket. But I’ll need one of your starter kits because I’m in suburban Chicago.

    I’ve used storage bins for some very basic units, but I’m working on a more complex design currently. That design uses a rigid ramp system but you could adapt the “hose and funnel” idea from the bucket composter I think. I’m also looking for a larger but hopefully inexpensive round container to use the same way as the 5 gallon bucket. Rubbermaid makes a 10 gallon container that looks like a small garbage can, but I need to find one locally because shipping them is expensive. 10 gallons is roughly the size of the BioPod which is plenty for the average user. The storage bin I’m working on is 20 gallons.

    I’ll have starter kits soon, but I want you to know that it might be quite a challenge to get good levels of reproduction in an area with no wild BSF population. I’m sure it can be done, it would just be more difficult. I hope you’ll give a shot anyway.

    Posted 28 Apr 2010 at 6:40 am
  24. Jerry wrote:

    Garbly,

    I can only guess but there’s a good chance your BSF would not be bothered by the Neem. The larvae are pretty hardy when it comes to chemicals.

    I sure do enjoy your blog!

    Posted 28 Apr 2010 at 6:46 am
  25. Garbly wrote:

    Thanks Jerry for the info. I dont want to do anything stupid to kill them off.

    Thanks for the comment about my blog too!

    Posted 28 Apr 2010 at 8:34 am
  26. David wrote:

    Would the top vent (with the PVC pipe) be sufficient for BSF females to enter the bucket to lay their eggs? I’m considering gluing screen or drilling very small holes so that the larvae don’t crawl out those holes (rather than using velcro). This would also prevent females from entering those side vents.

    Posted 28 Apr 2010 at 4:20 pm
  27. Jerry wrote:

    David,

    The females will definitely enter the top vent. If you eliminate the Velcro some larvae will crawl on the underside of the lid, but if you keep the cardboard around the bushing I don’t think they’ll get out that way. However, you will probably have to deal with larvae wedging themselves in the crack between the lid and the bucket. They always gravitate to cracks like that and if the lid isn’t securely in place I’ll bet they will push the lid up and get out. Once I had a 4 X 8 concrete paver in a pan with about 200 larvae. That’s about a handful. They all wanted under the brick and together they managed to lift it completely off the surface and get underneath.

    The screen is an interesting idea though and I’m interested how it works out if you try it. The screen would block the females from entering those vents but I think they may find it suitable for laying eggs.

    Posted 28 Apr 2010 at 5:00 pm
  28. Frank wrote:

    Thanks for detailing your design, I just finished my version using items around the house for the most part. I was wondering why you have the filter material above the liquid reservoir.
    I just put some plastic with small 1/8″ holes in it and covered it with layers of cardboard. I didn’t make the air hole slots but, instead drilled a bunch of 1/8″ holes around the top area.

    Thanks again for all your work
    Frank

    Posted 03 May 2010 at 4:43 pm
  29. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Frank, you’re quite welcome.

    I was wondering why you have the filter material above the liquid reservoir.
    I just put some plastic with small 1/8″ holes in it and covered it with layers of cardboard.

    It may not give any advantage but it seems to me that it might help prevent the opening to the drain outlet from becoming clogged. I would think that the 1/8 inch (3mm) holes would clog too easily but only time will tell. If it does clog then you can always pull everything out and try something else.

    I didn’t make the air hole slots but, instead drilled a bunch of 1/8″ holes around the top area.

    What constitutes adequate ventilation in one climate might not work in another. In my area it gets into the 100ºF (38C) plus range a few days each summer and days in the 90′s are common. Add that to the extra heat created by the larvae metabolizing food and it quickly gets too hot. I will often remove the cover completely during hot afternoons if I’ll be around to monitor things (like rain). Even if the 1/8 inch holes provide you with enough ventilation how will the female BSF enter your unit? I’ve found that even a 1/2 inch (13mm) diameter hole is often ignored by BSF females and they lay eggs on the outside of the unit instead. That’s fine but it’s not the most efficient method. I would rather have them lay inside the container.

    Good luck!

    Posted 03 May 2010 at 6:06 pm
  30. Frank wrote:

    Hi Jerry,
    I also made the plastic about a 1/4″ smaller diameter then the bucket thinking most the liquid would flow down the sides into the reservoir.

    I’ll have to monitor the heat this year to see if the vent holes are enough.

    I put a 1″ pvc pipe through the top with a tee for the BSF females to access the cardboard attached to the pipe.

    Do you think the 1″ is enough or should I make some slots?

    Thanks Again
    Frank

    Posted 06 May 2010 at 1:40 pm
  31. Jerry wrote:

    Frank,

    I’ve been observing the BSF females coming to my bucket and every single one that I saw enter it used the side vents. I did find eggs in three of the voids in the cardboard, but that doesn’t mean those BSF entered via the top vent. The next lid vent I make will be from larger pipe, maybe as large as 1 1/2 inch for the “T” section.

    Since your side vents are too small for the BSF to enter the bucket it may cause them to use the lid vent but if it were me I would want the access to be as efficient as possible.

    Posted 06 May 2010 at 3:39 pm
  32. Frank wrote:

    Jerry,

    That makes sense, I will make a few larger holes on the sides for the BSF’s to enter as easily as possible.

    Just waiting with a baited bucket!! LOL for the BSF’s to show up.

    I’ve had them in my worm bin before so I think there is a population near. I found your site while I was trying to figure out what those giant maggots were doing in my worm bin. Little did I know I would one day build a special bucket for them. But, when I read how my chickens would thank me for the treats I had to give it a try.

    Posted 06 May 2010 at 4:47 pm
  33. Garbly wrote:

    I have never worried about cardboard set-ups for the females to lay eggs on. I figured they were laying them some where and I always had a thriving colony. I always throw paper towels and paper plates in my composter along with the food for the BSF (it just happens to be what the scraps were sitting on), and today I got to watch a female laying eggs on a paper towel in there!

    Posted 06 May 2010 at 5:31 pm
  34. Jerry wrote:

    Garbly,

    I’m glad you got to see one of the girls laying. :) You certainly don’t need to use cardboard, especially after your colony is established. The cardboard may help speed up establishing a new unit and it also makes it easier to see the eggs and to share BSF with someone.

    Posted 06 May 2010 at 6:39 pm
  35. Frank wrote:

    Last week I went to check my bucket and to my amazement there was a BSF female laying eggs on the lid not in the cardboard. So, hopefully everything is going and I’ll start seeing some BSF Larva in the bucket. How long does it take for them to grow up and start their journey to the drop shoot.

    Frank (San Francisco bay area)

    Posted 17 May 2010 at 12:26 pm
  36. Jerry wrote:

    That’s great Frank!

    It’s very common to see BSF scattering eggs on the lid and walls of the bucket. These individually laid eggs are virtually invisible on a white surface. The cardboard’s main purpose is to entice the females to lay their remaining eggs all in one safe place. My next lid vent will use 1 1/2 inch pipe since I still haven’t seen any BSF use the 3/4 inch to enter the bucket. More ventilation is always better and I initially chose 3/4 to try and keep costs down. I think an extra $ or two is worth it in this case.

    It will take about four days for the eggs to hatch and in hot weather about another week to see them easily. Cooler weather prolongs the process. If you can bring the bucket into a shed or garage at night to keep it a bit warmer you can decrease the time for development.

    Posted 17 May 2010 at 7:49 pm
  37. Kim wrote:

    I love this site. I will be making one of your fly buckets in the next few weeks. But, I have some questions. I apologize if some of this is stated elsewhere on your blog, there is just alot of into on this site in your archives…
    1.) I raise red wiggler worms..and when I put food in the bin, I cover it with shredded newspaper bedding to help mask the smell and keep other flies out of it…what do I do cover the food with in the soldier fly bin? I understand that grass and paper is too high in cellulose. I have hay from goat/chicken house, but I imagine that isn’t much different then putting grass clippings.

    2.) I live in SW Alabama, zone 8b. I am curious how I can keep my colony active during the winter months. I can move it inside my barn to maintain a good temp, but I dont see many soldier flies in the winter months. Will I be able to “maintain” the existing larvae in the bin, but not necessarily be harvest any of the them? My interest is to supplement my chickens diet. I am understanding that as long as I continue to feed them (but at a reduced rate) and the bin conditions are good, they will eat, but not necessarily get to the stage where they will exit the bin to reproduce. Am I understanding that right?

    3.) At some point with worms, you harvest your castings. At what point do I remove the castings in the fly bucket and start over?
    How deep will they go?

    4.) I understand that i am to limit the cellulose (paper and grass clippings) in the bin, but is there anything else I should stay away from? Can I put most other foods (prepared foods such as salads w/ dressing, and leftovers from my frig). Meats, oils, fats, and dairy is not an issue for the BSF?

    5) The pvc pipe that comes out of the bin and goes to your grub collector….is there any reason why it has another elbow at the bottom…was that to eliminate rain getting in?

    Posted 21 May 2010 at 12:19 am
  38. B.N.Viswanath wrote:

    Can you please post the picture of black soldier fly and also indicate its distribution

    Posted 21 May 2010 at 1:15 am
  39. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Kim,

    I’m glad you enjoy the blog.

    1.) There is no need to cover BSF larvae with anything; they repel other fly species with pheromones and if you operate the unit properly there is no bad odor, only a mild earthy aroma.

    2.) Winter BSF operation is too large a subject for the comment section. It will be easier to understand once you master warm weather BSF culturing. I haven’t covered winter operation very well and I have limited experience with it. I hope to maintain my south Georgia colony this coming winter so perhaps we can do it together. I have one brief post about cold weather BSF culturing: http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2008/08/16/bsf-composting-in-the-frigid-north/

    3.) You harvest the castings when the unit fills up which will vary depending on several factors. I’ve heard differing opinions about how deep BSF larvae will feed. I think I read something like 8 or 10 inches. I’ve found larvae deeper than that but I can’t confirm that they were feeding.

    4.) BSF larvae will eat anything that humans can and more, including manure. I’ve never tried adding grass or leaves to a unit and there is no reason to do so that I’m aware of. Paper can be added to absorb excess moisture and the larvae will shred it but not consume it. Instead of paper I use sawdust and wood shavings as a moisture buffer. Glossy paper and newsprint should not be used and neither should sawdust from pressure treated lumber. Meats, oils, fats, and dairy will all be consumed by BSF larvae. I recommend limiting meats, and anything else for that matter, to what the larvae can eat in a day or two. There exceptions to that rule such as hard foods like raw root vegetables which remain stable as the larvae eat them over time.

    5.) Yes, the horizontal pipe is angled upward at a slight angle so that water will flow away from the harvest container. If your unit is not exposed to rain then you could eliminate it and have a straight drop into the container.

    Posted 21 May 2010 at 7:52 am
  40. Jerry wrote:

    Hello Dr. Viswanath,

    We are still gathering data about the range of BSF. They are common in most tropical and subtropical areas around the world and also in some cooler areas such as Vancouver and Seattle. You can use USDA hardiness zones to predict BSF presence fairly well; they are common in the warmer zones and are occasionally found in zone 5. High humidity favors BSF and they are rarely found above 5000 feet (1500 meters) in altitude.

    There are photos of BSF found throughout this blog but I have not yet set up a good gallery. I will try to do so in the near future. Below are a few that I’ve taken and for more you can search images for “Hermetia illucens” on the web.

    female BSF laying in DIY bucket Adult Black Soldier Fly close up of adult BSF
    (click photos to enlarge)

    Posted 21 May 2010 at 8:23 am
  41. ProgressivePete wrote:

    12-inch janitorial floor cleaning pads would be the perfect size filter for a 5-gallon bucket. It is synthetic. They are cheap (about $2.50 each, in packs of 5).

    I saw some BSF in my worm bin today. I don’t yet have a BSFL bucket system – will the BSFL survive okay along with my redwoms?

    Posted 21 May 2010 at 9:37 pm
  42. injunjoe wrote:

    Hello Jerry; Nice work on this new design.

    As far as traction may I suggest taking a cable/wire rope and run it through the tubing.
    Then fray the end out bigger then the tubing.
    Use a drill and slowly pull it through the tube.
    This will scratch the plastic all up giving much more traction.

    Just a thought!
    injunjoe

    Posted 22 May 2010 at 10:07 am
  43. Jerry wrote:

    Hi ProgressivePete,

    Thanks for the suggestion about the cleaning pads, I’m going to look into that.

    The BSF larvae will not be effected by your worms, but they might create too much heat for the worms and they will certainly consume a lot of the food scraps.

    Posted 23 May 2010 at 9:01 am
  44. Jerry wrote:

    Hi injunjoe,

    It’s good to hear from you again. Thanks for the advice about roughing the tubing, it may help someone out. I actually never ran into a problem with larvae traction because I used a longer tube for a more gentle angle. Still, someone else might use a tube made from a different material or a short piece and in that case your advice sounds like a good solution.

    Posted 23 May 2010 at 3:33 pm
  45. Amanda wrote:

    I was wondering if you need to have BSF larve to start the process, I live in east central FL and believe I have seen one or two around my trash can I do eat alot of fruit and throw the rinds in the can … Also I have a huge camphor tree beside my home would that be an ideal place for my DIY Biopod … Thank you for all your information ….

    Posted 28 May 2010 at 8:32 pm
  46. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Amanda,

    No one that lives in an area with wild BSF needs a starter kit, and your area has plenty of them. I’ve had great success attracting my local BSF with fermented corn as you can see in my latest post. I’m also experimenting with shredded cabbage covered with water and it looks like it might work even faster. A kit can help speed up the process and it is also kind of cool to observe the new larvae in their little hatchery.

    A big shade tree would be a good spot, If you haven’t already built your unit you might want to wait a day or so because I’m going to post v2.1 soon. I just built a new bucket with much larger top and side vents, a synthetic filter medium, a straight fitting for the drain outlet, and a different type of Velcro.

    Posted 28 May 2010 at 8:50 pm
  47. Priyatna wrote:

    Wow..inspiring design Jerry, i live in Indonesia, South east Asia, Now i knew what to do with my digester. My digester don’t have enough ventilation at the top only drainage at the bottom, and the pupa mixed with young larva the harvesting system is brilliant.
    I’m just afraid the ventilation holes will allow ants to enter the bin and become predator to the larva.

    Posted 29 May 2010 at 9:22 am
  48. Jerry wrote:

    Priyatna,

    Thanks! Ants can be a problem but I’ve never had a serious infestation. Maybe a dense colony of BSF larvae is a deterrent, at least for some species of ants. One thing you can do to limit ants is to keep the unit on a stand and treat the legs with some sort of repellent. Whatever you do I would recommend having as much ventilation as you can without exposing the unit to excess rain or predation. In very warm climates it’s often beneficial to operate with no lid at all, at least during the hottest time of day.

    Posted 29 May 2010 at 9:51 am
  49. ProgressivePete wrote:

    There is a product called “Tackyfoot” that is a sticky ant repellent. Beekeepers use it on their hive stands.

    Posted 01 Jun 2010 at 11:31 pm
  50. Frank wrote:

    I’ve now noticed that my BSF unit is full of regular fly maggots. They are also climbing out to the collections jar and the chickens like them. But, I was wondering if they will stop the BSF’s from using the unit or should I clean them out? Or is it just fine and the BSF will eventually take over the bucket. I still haven’t seen a BSF larva in the unit.

    Frank

    Posted 07 Jun 2010 at 12:27 pm
  51. Jerry wrote:

    Frank,

    The house fly larvae won’t deter the BSF at all. I don’t recommend removing any material from your unit because it may be inhabited by tiny, newly hatched BSF larvae which are too small to see easily.

    Posted 07 Jun 2010 at 4:09 pm
  52. djmcau wrote:

    Hi Jerry
    I have been trying to harvest eggs on and off for a few months. None of them seem to be hatching. Is there a trick to harvesting the eggs? They are being laid on the edge of my compost so I try to carefully scrape them off and keep them in a sep well ventilated container with some scraps in a warm place. Any tips?
    Cheers

    Posted 07 Jun 2010 at 7:23 pm
  53. Jerry wrote:

    djmcau,

    Make sure they aren’t dehydrating. I usually mist them occasionally, especially if you’re keeping them in an air conditioned environment. Also, are you completely sure they aren’t hatching? If they do hatch they’ll make their way to the food scraps and essentially disappear for several days until they grow large enough to be easily seen. It normally takes four days to hatch plus the additional time to grow before you’ll see them.

    Posted 08 Jun 2010 at 8:48 am
  54. PK wrote:

    Hi,
    To scour the insides of your clear tubing so that the larvae have traction on their way out, you could use a long stick at the end of which you could drill a nail thru so that its point comes out the other end (across the stick at one end.) Pull this thru the tubing and scour – like you clean a gun barrel. BTW: the design is brilliant. Thanks,
    PK

    Posted 09 Jun 2010 at 4:24 am
  55. Chowgene Koay wrote:

    Hello,

    I have a thought on adding traction to the tubing. You can use a pipe cleaning brush.

    i believe they have them with metal hairs so you can just scrub that into the tube causing abrasion.

    Posted 13 Jun 2010 at 11:03 pm
  56. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Chowgene,

    Traction wasn’t the issue I thought it might be. Once I had BSF in the unit they quickly build up a layer of stuff on the tubing and they got plenty of traction. Thanks for the thought.

    Posted 13 Jun 2010 at 11:19 pm
  57. Frank wrote:

    This weekend I got a special Fathers Day Present BSF’s. The last couple mornings there have been a few BSF larva in the collection jar. I’m 99.9% they are BDF as they are 5x’s bigger than the house fly larva but, I still haven’t seen them in the unit just the collection jar.

    Thanks for all your help Jerry
    Frank

    Posted 21 Jun 2010 at 12:14 pm
  58. Ben wrote:

    Hi Jerry,
    I’d like to take a shot at building a composter based on your model. Could you (or have you) compiled a parts list? If I could head to Lowe’s with a list of parts written in plumber-speak, I think I’d be more likely to get what I need without going crazy.

    Thanks for your inspiring site!

    Posted 21 Jun 2010 at 4:25 pm
  59. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Frank,

    BSF beat a necktie any day!;)

    It’s odd that you find them in the collection bucket but not in the unit. Have you tried digging around in the waste to look for them. Much of the time the larvae will eat from beneath the scraps to avoid the light. You also might try observing them at night when they would be on the surface more.

    Come to think of it what you’re getting in the collection bucket might not be BSF after all. Size is only the most basic indicator and there are several other species with similar size larvae. If you can post a photo of what you have I can probably ID it for you.

    These might help:

    Posted 21 Jun 2010 at 5:55 pm
  60. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Ben,

    I didn’t make a parts list because I hadn’t tested the unit when I wrote the post. I’m now testing version 2.1 and I’m happy enough with the changes that I’m ready to post them. I’ll include a parts list when I update the post, hopefully in the next day or two.

    Posted 21 Jun 2010 at 6:06 pm
  61. Frank wrote:

    Hi Jerry,
    I’m not sure now looking at your pictures but, I hope you can tell from the pictures below.

    Thanks
    Frank

    Posted 22 Jun 2010 at 3:02 pm
  62. Frank wrote:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuog3-Q38E

    Jerry here is a video of them but not very sharp .
    Frank

    Posted 22 Jun 2010 at 3:14 pm
  63. Jerry wrote:

    Frank,

    My guess is blow fly larvae. You can put some in a jar and see what they turn into.

    Posted 22 Jun 2010 at 3:28 pm
  64. Frank wrote:

    Hi Jerry, I just read FAQ’s and it looks like i’ll just put some of them into a bucket with a few inches of sawdust and see what emerges. Wow this is turning into an interesting science project.
    Thanks
    Frank

    Posted 22 Jun 2010 at 3:41 pm
  65. Mitch wrote:

    Your concern over allowing the BSF females entry into the container is misplaced. BSF will populate containers even when there are no entry points larger than a grain of sand. Like many other species of insect, BSF will lay eggs in clutches near, but not directly on, the food source. The larva are well adapted to get to the right place by the chemical signals given off by the decomposing food. A top mounted “fly in” vent is not necessary at all.

    Posted 27 Jun 2010 at 9:24 am
  66. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Mitch,

    I agree with everything you said about BSF behavior. If you look at the current version 2.1 of this composter you’ll notice that I removed any mention of the top vent as an access point for the females. I did this mostly for the sake of simplicity and I still believe there are some advantages of the females entering the unit to lay eggs as opposed to them laying on the outside. Eggs scattered on the outside of the bucket may be washed away by rain or inadvertently crushed if you move the bucket, something I do regularly. A common place for BSF to deposit eggs outside of the unit is the crack where the lid meets the rim of the bucket. Eggs laid there are in danger of being crushed whenever you remove and replace the lid.

    I hope it doesn’t sound like I’m disagreeing with you because your observations are correct, it’s just my habit to over-think and over-design things. I appreciate comments from anyone who understands BSF behavior well and it seems that you do. Thanks.

    Posted 27 Jun 2010 at 10:50 am
  67. Julie wrote:

    My bio pod appears to be taken over by house fly larvae. However I do see adult BSF in the pod and a bit around the yard. How do I get the pod back in balance before it gets cold here again in MI?

    Posted 07 Aug 2010 at 6:58 am
  68. Jerry wrote:

    Hi Julie,

    I’m sorry I didn’t reply to your earlier question, I’ve been swamped.

    I would just keep doing what you’re already doing and the BSF will reassert themselves very soon. House flies pass through the larval stage very quickly and since you’re seeing BSF in and around your BioPod it should just be a matter of time before your unit is back in balance.

    Posted 07 Aug 2010 at 8:03 am
  69. wayne shumans wrote:

    try boiling your corn first it will speed up the process wayne

    Posted 08 Aug 2010 at 12:15 pm
  70. Janine McCreery wrote:

    BSF laid eggs in the left-over chicken feed I dumped in my compost bin. I didn’t know what they were. I was sooooo disgusted. Now I realize they were a gift. Thanks for your informative website!

    Posted 15 Aug 2010 at 3:38 pm

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