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Post Are these BSF?
I found these just the other day and theres about 10 of them in my bucket right now and tons of maggots but i think its a mix of them and housefly maggots.. how do i tell the difference ive been looking it up but cannot figure it out. Jeesus it says my file is too big..


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
Tyler welcome to our forum :) If you'd like you can introduce yourself here (link).

Have a look at the Photo reference guide for identifying Black Soldier Flies (link)

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Post Re: Are these BSF?
hello here they are! I also didnt see them lay on any of my cardboard i put out or anything else.. Not sure if thats even BSF im so confused even how to tell housefly maggots from bsf maggots because they all are so young.. this is my second try at this my first i bought 3k maggots and my chicken decided to get up in there and scratch them all out so i lost everything i started with.. I was so upset is there anyone to send me some BSF maggots, very small ones so i can get a successful colony, im really trying here /:


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
tyler I can't really tell from those photos. Try sending the full size photos to the following email blacksoldierflymappingproject@gmail.com

Can't help you with larvae but have a look at Black Soldier Fly Larvae Vendors (link)

Here's a simple bin that will keep the chickens out:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articl ... r-5.48465/

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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I believe my problem is all of my maggots are climbing out when its night time i went and checked on them last night.. i use plastic bins.. should i switch to wood or do you think the ones escaping are house fly maggots? I can take a pic when i get home.. Im having the worst trouble with this.


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
There will always be a few that wander but it's usually the prepupal larvae which have stopped eating that go looking for a way out. You'll probably want to look at a barrier of some sort. Jerry lines the top interior circumference with the rough (not the fuzzy) strip of two-part Velcro (link) and there are also the mechanical barriers used by PeteB (link) and (link). I experimented with an electric 'fence' (link) but I don't think as practical as the others.

For help on indentifing the maggots/larvae see These Are Not The Larvae You Are Looking For (link)

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Post Re: Are these BSF?
Well are these the folks?


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Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:30 pm
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Post Re: Are these BSF?
It's hard to tell from your photos but I think the flies are BSF

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The larvae also might be BSFL. The yellow color is not expected but that just maybe the lighting.

If you want, send the original full resolution pics to:
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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I sent to that email as well, and no these maggots are actually orange like that. Im gonna check for white bands on the legs but i dont think that has it either.. but it does fly.. and i had like 20 in at one time.. but i really dont have many maggots which makes me think its not them but i am unsure..


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
No white bands on legs.. wonder wth it is then.. maybe i dont have wild ones here


Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:23 pm
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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I don't think that's a BSF. Here's closeup from your photos and a pic with a good view of the windows on the abdomen of a BSF and the white legs:

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Post Re: Are these BSF?
tyler11x wrote:
No white bands on legs.. wonder wth it is then.. maybe i dont have wild ones here


See if there have been any reported close to your location on our Black Soldier Fly Mapping Project (link)

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Post Re: Are these BSF?
Dang it! im super sad.. I guess modesto ca doesn't have them.. i have had three barrels out with chicken feed... another with dog poo... and all that comes is those bugs right there and an assortment of beetles and tons of flies.


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I guess those are called HAIRY ROVE BEETLES! And they eat all your maggots oh NO!


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I checked the maps they are only like one hour away.. I bet they have to be here. I bet it.. I feel like ive seen them before.. Maybe im doing this wrong? Uh.. No matter what if i put out chicken feed and soak it and place it out that day, the next day i will have maggots, im assuming house fly.. do i keep adding feed or just give it time?


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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I'd keep on trying for a while.

Attracting black soldier flies-the basics (link) topic.

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Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:33 pm
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Post Re: Are these BSF?
I checked that, it doesn't say to keep adding food or not.. the fly maggots turn it all black so i dont know what to do.


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