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Post Re: aquaponic system doing well
Hi Francois, I just wanted to thank you for sharing so much about your aquaponics system. It was an introduction for me, and after looking for further info to explain it online, I could find none better.

My mom sent me this link, and I think you would appreciate what this school is doing to make a 'closed loop' system with captured rainwater, tilapia, aquaponic growing, and algae to become biodiesel and also re-oxygenate the water before it's returned to the tilapia tank. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BWuziDfr40



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Mari thanks for posting that video. Those folks could set up a few black soldier fly larvae bins in their greenhouse and feed the larvae to the fish.

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BorealWormer, Nice!

I sent a note to the director of the program there to suggest just that. And they must have wastes from their plant scraps and deceased fish, and probably without as good a way to biodegrade those locally and cleanly. We might have just helped close another loop!


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jamvega wrote:
Hi Francois, I just wanted to thank you for sharing so much about your aquaponics system. It was an introduction for me, and after looking for further info to explain it online, I could find none better.

My mom sent me this link, and I think you would appreciate what this school is doing to make a 'closed loop' system with captured rainwater, tilapia, aquaponic growing, and algae to become biodiesel and also re-oxygenate the water before it's returned to the tilapia tank. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BWuziDfr40



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Hi jamvega
thanks
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well the worms the flies the larvae the pupae the aquaponic system....i am happy


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i found the first cluster of eggs for this season...many more to come


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BorealWormer wrote:
Mari thanks for posting that video. Those folks could set up a few black soldier fly larvae bins in their greenhouse and feed the larvae to the fish.

Y'know, BorealWormer, I took your message as a prompt to reach out to them and emailed the director, Michael Mageau, who pretty quickly emailed me back and said they were already working on setting up a colony. I thanked him and invited him to look upon this forum as a resource.
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the 1st lot of larvae....dead.....OVER FEeeeeeeeeeeding

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I have not had any time over the last 2 weeks... Aquaponic system did its thing
I removed the basil and most of the celery today.
i want to clean all the trays and replant when i have time.
the fish in the system are fine.


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This is the celery roots of the celery grown in rafts in the aquaponic system


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Garlic


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i cut the plants at their base and removed out of the system...


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lots of holes to fill...i dont know when...


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garlic chives in stones under the inflow from the fish tank
easy grower and min effort


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francois wrote:
the 1st lot of larvae....dead.....OVER FEeeeeeeeeeeding


First, I want to thank you for sharing photos of your beautiful garden.

I'm curious about the overfeeding that you believed killed the larvae. It is my belief that BSF larvae can be constantly exposed to food without any problems. Perhaps overfeeding created a condition in the composter that resulted in a die-off? I think the only reports that we've had about mass die-off were related to mites, or the theory that a large percentage of larvae moving into the mature stage can cause a bacteria spike as they purge their guts.

Also, whenever I see larvae that are not moving, I isolate them and I usually find that the larvae were not actually dead after all. I often observe stationary larvae below the surface in my transparent composters, but when I check back in several hours they have moved. Perhaps some larvae choose to "rest" in a similar manner, only on the surface.

Thanks again for this great thread francois. :)

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Hi Jerry
first thing come to mind...I can be wrong.
when I cleaned out the bin I did not find a single larvae...the food in the bin was rotting
before I left to work away from home I could hear the larvae eating and they were happy.
before leaving I added a lot of bananas...and covered with a layer of well composted horse manure
to keep flies away...and then all dead...so I can't really say what and why.
thanks you for bringing this to my attention ;)

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francois wrote:
the 1st lot of larvae....dead.....OVER FEeeeeeeeeeeding


First, I want to thank you for sharing photos of your beautiful garden.

I'm curious about the overfeeding that you believed killed the larvae. It is my belief that BSF larvae can be constantly exposed to food without any problems. Perhaps overfeeding created a condition in the composter that resulted in a die-off? I think the only reports that we've had about mass die-off were related to mites, or the theory that a large percentage of larvae moving into the mature stage can cause a bacteria spike as they purge their guts.

Also, whenever I see larvae that are not moving, I isolate them and I usually find that the larvae were not actually dead after all. I often observe stationary larvae below the surface in my transparent composters, but when I check back in several hours they have moved. Perhaps some larvae choose to "rest" in a similar manner, only on the surface.

Thanks again for this great thread francois. :)

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francois, the most important point I would like to make is that there is no such thing as "too rotten" when it comes to what you feed BSF larvae. (Maybe animal protein is an exception, and I advise people to avoid adding meats that might have botulism, especially if they want to use the larvae as feed) In my mind, more fungus, mold, yeast, etc., makes the food even better, or at least more easily consumed by BSF.

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I cut the last of the celery


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the celery roots


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i left the garlic and garlic chives


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