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Thread was formerly titled "Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to livestock". Merged it with a similar topic and changed title to reflect discussion about regulations world wide.
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A side dish of maggots with supermarket meat! Livestock to be fed larvae reared on cow and pig excrement in EU trial to meet rising demands for meat

EU plan to use protein-rich fly maggots instead of soya beans in animal feed

Waste products including spent grain from whisky-making could be used

Global demand for meat and dairy products is predicted to double by 2050


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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
I wonder where that leaves the 'not feeding back to the same species' theory?

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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
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I wonder where that leaves the 'not feeding back to the same species' theory?


It's my understanding that you can do that as long as you sanitize the larvae by cooking or some other process that will kill pathogens.

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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
They are obviously talking about housefly maggots, not even disease-free BSF. BSF don't like high-carbon waste like the straw and sawdust that they mention -- do housefly maggots eat those things?

"It's my understanding that you can do that as long as you sanitize the larvae by cooking or some other process that will kill pathogens."

They can't kill the prions causing Mad Cow Disease by cooking, so what's the plan for the maggots? BSE since 1986 -- what's next?

They might be able to get away with "cross-feeding" maggots raised on manure (feed maggots raised on cow manure to pigs, from pigs to chickens, from chickens to cows, for example), but as obsessive as the human race is to place profit over health and safety, it makes a person wonder, doesn't it?

Here in the U.S., our USDA is extremely lax about enforcing their own rules.

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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
I don't see an issue with using house flies in a controlled environment where disease would not be an issue. House fly larvae are already being raised in sterile conditions for use in medical applications such as removing dead flesh from burn victims. House flies normally carry disease because they travel back and forth between humans, their food, and contaminated materials like carrion and rotting food. In the absence of that cycle they shouldn't be any more prone to carrying disease than BSF are.

I don't see a correlation with mad cow disease which is caused by feeding mammalian byproducts to ruminants. The larvae are being fed grain/grass which has passed through a cow, but that's a lot different that a cow eating other mammals. On the other hand, I'm not sure about the effects of feeding larvae to herbivores, but I hope the scientists haven't failed to consider that.

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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
"I don't see a correlation with mad cow disease..."

Mankind, the medical professionals and the scientists don't know everything -- that's my problem. BSE, GMOs, etc -- assumptions are made that everything is fine when it's not.

For one thing, you know sure as 'hell that the flies in manure-feeding aren't going to be in much of a controlled environment. People wonder how E-Coli gets into our farm produce; I'll tell you: if you go to a large commercial production farm and walk up and down the rows of vegetables and fruit, you will see human feces between the rows. Third-World workers are paid by the collection unit (a box or crate or flat), and they lose money if they waste time trudging all the way to the portable toilets at the far edge of the field.

BSE comes from feeding animals to animals. Feeding cow-waste-raised maggots to cows increases the likelihood of infecting the feeder cows with whatever the donor cows had, parasites or whatever. That is the main issue at this time. Things may change.

These people know about BSF, which don't carry disease, so that would seem to be a safer course, but they're going (once again and forever, with cheap and profitable, screw the dangers.

Has anything about the American food industry impressed you with their care, custody or control?

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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
I'm happy to see fly larvae being considered for helping make food production more efficient. It can be managed well or poorly, much like the example you gave.

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Post Re: Article about raising maggots on manure-feeding to lives
More info from the EU in this article:

Beetles, fly larva: new frontier in animal feed
http://blouinnews.com/60921/story/beetl ... nimal-feed
and repeated in Reuters (link) dated Wed Jun 19, 2013:

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While another pioneering company, South Africa's AgriProtein Technologies, is rearing house flies and using insect flour for cattle feed, this is not allowed in the European Union where the "mad cow" disease crisis of the late 1990s has led to caution over the use of processed animal proteins (PAPs).

PAPs, particularly when cattle were given bovine protein, were blamed for the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) outbreak.

The European Commission has approved the use of PAPs to feed fish from June 1, which includes insect meal. It may allow their use in pig and poultry feed from 2014, lifting a ban on animal by-products imposed during the BSE outbreak.

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Post European laws regarding feeding insects to livestock
Duplicate topics merged and retitled - BW

Further to the above is a press release dated 17 October 2013 from http://www.proteinsect.eu/

http://www.proteinsect.eu/fileadmin/use ... -Final.pdf

"... At present, EU law prohibits the inclusion of protein derived from insects in animal feed, with the exception of feed intended for fish or shellfish. As evidence of efficacy and safety of insect protein increases, through research delivered by the EU-funded PROteINSECT and other research projects, it is hoped that insect protein will also be permitted in pig and poultry feed in the future, particularly as these animals already consume insects as part of their natural diet."

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Post Re: European laws regarding feeding insects to livestock
There's a bit more information about the specific EU regs at the bottom of this post (link) by "StVitus"

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...I would say to make sure that if you want to commercialise any of your production, you will need to make sure you meet the EU regs given by EC 1069/2009. I had to go through some lengthy discussions with the FSA before the trial could go ahead. I think things will become more relaxed in the future, though.

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Post Re: European laws regarding feeding insects to livestock
There are links to some of the EU regs in this post (link) by "StVitus"

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Hello all,
here are the links to the EU regs.

This is the main document which lays down what can and cannot be done with various animal by-products. Processing and catering waste BPs are category 3. Dead animals (fallen stock) from farming are category 2.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 033:EN:PDF

This document gives specific conditions for further processing and disposal of BPs mentioned in 1069/2009 above and is consequently much bigger:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 254:EN:PDF

Further clarification in the UK can be sort from the FSA or from AHVLA, but they may also confuse the matter in my experience!

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Post Re: European laws regarding feeding insects to livestock
A discussion on the Sustainable Sanitation Alliance (SuSanA) forum:

Legal barriers in the EU and other countries for using black soldier fly larvae as feed for farmed animals (link)

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Post Re: European laws regarding feeding insects to livestock
I know this thread is dead but I just wanted to say that prions come from the brains of animals, so you cannot transmit prions through manure.

If you were feeding maggots on meat processing offcuts and then to cows again then you would have a problem, but feeding maggots to pigs and chickens would be natural.


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Post Re: European laws regarding feeding insects to livestock
This thread not dead just awaiting news ;)

As you point out the danger may be in feeding animal by products back to the species of origin but so far there's no definitive science that I know of related to BSFL in this aspect.

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Post Re: Regulations regarding feeding insects to livestock
Changed the title of this thread to "Regulations regarding feeding insects to livestock" to reflect the worldwide nature of this discussion.

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Post Re: Regulations regarding feeding insects to livestock
This October 23, 2014 article (link) in the Vancouver Sun from Canada is primarily about a startup company Ofbug (link) with some info about another Canadian company Enterra Feed Corporation (link). Below are some excerpts relating to regulations in Canada (and the US) and the approval process:

For the past three years, Enterra has had an application pending with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for permission to sell feed products in Canada.

“From what we can see, there’s no red flags,” Marchant said. The application is just slowly going through the process, he said.

Redford’s business is also stalled by regulation. She received a polite letter from the CFIA saying her website implied Ofbug was selling insects as feed for livestock, and that bugs are not an accepted commercial feed ingredient.

“It’s illegal for us to sell to people (who are) feeding animals meant for human consumption,” Redford said. “It’s OK for chickens on a hobby farm that aren’t being sold to other people.”

In Canada, “ironically, you can feed bugs to people, but you can’t to livestock,” Marchant said. “You can go to specialty stores and markets and buy insects and eat them, but you can’t feed them to little piglets, fish or chickens.”

Enterra is still testing its model, but has begun selling to producers of poultry feed, fish feed and pet food in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. Enterra is permitted to, and does sell into Canadian pet food and fertilizer markets.

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Post Re: Regulations regarding feeding insects to livestock
From the The Yellow Springs News in an article about the sale of EnviroFlight:

Global company purchases EnviroFlight
By Diane Chiddister
Published: March 31, 2016

http://ysnews.com/news/2016/03/global-c ... viroflight

"EnviroFlight has not yet received regulatory approval to market its products for fish and animal feed. However, according to Rossi in the email, EnviroFlight is in the “process of preparing a dossier for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, or FDA, for Dried Black Soldier Fly Larvae Meal. The dossier will assist the FDA in recommending to the Association of American Feed Control Officials that BSFL meal is safe for use in animal feeds for aquaculture and other livestock.”

Currently, EnviroFlight sells its product to select zoos and pet food distributors."

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Post Re: Regulations regarding feeding insects to livestock
Recent approvals for use in Canada for feeding animals meant for human consumption are detailed in this post (link)

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